How To Repair Sunfish Mast Hole
- May 1, 2022
- 5
- #ane
So, I did the unthinkable: loaned my Catalina 25 out to "a seasoned crewman." Boat went out, and came back broken, never fifty-fifty got in the water. Says "seasoned sailor:" we were raising the mast, and we almost got information technology upwardly, a bit of current of air came up and blew information technology out of my grip and it went overboard, really sorry, man."
So, how in the world do I fix this? No damage to the tabernacle/deck, but per the picture, the mast bolt tore through the holes in the mast. Any ideas? New Mast? Cut the damage off and re-drill holes? As Edgar Allen Poe wrote, "quote the Raven: "Nevermore!" 
So, how in the world do I fix this? No damage to the tabernacle/deck, but per the picture, the mast bolt tore through the holes in the mast. Any ideas? New Mast? Cut the damage off and re-drill holes? As Edgar Allen Poe wrote, "quote the Raven: "Nevermore!"
- Dec 28, 2022
- 1,440
- #2
Figure out the toll and inform the seasoned sailor of the total for 1/2 unless there was specific discussion on "your break it you pay for information technology". I for the life of me could non imagine loaning my boat out or using those gunkhole AirBnB programs to make some side hustle. Good luck.
- Sep 25, 2008
- six,406
- #three
Ask the guy to accept it stock-still or replaced.
Unhelpful suggestion - never loan a boat to anyone.
- Jan 1, 2006
- 6,275
- #four
If you cut it, yous accept to heighten the mast step by the aforementioned corporeality or the continuing rigging won't fit. Yous might exist able to get away with a lower blast (I wouldn't want that). You could shorten the standing rigging with no swage hardware. Simply getting the lengths right would exist tricky.
An culling might be to have a welder fashion a sleeve around the base of the mast and weld it to the mast and and then to redial the holes.
And there'south a new mast.
That's nearly all I've got.
An culling might be to have a welder fashion a sleeve around the base of the mast and weld it to the mast and and then to redial the holes.
And there'south a new mast.
That's nearly all I've got.
- February 21, 2022
- iv,140
- May 1, 2022
- 5
- #6
Thanks everyone for the aid! In all my years sailing, I've done a lot of dumb things, but nothing like outright stupidity of loaning my boat! First fourth dimension is also the concluding time! It gets better, his wife got a whack on the wrist from the gunkhole trailer winch they were using to step it, had it in freewheel instead of ratchet, so when the mast went over the handle spun around nailing her on the wrist. And no, no help from "seasoned sailor," he figures that since the boat never got into the h2o, he doesn't owe annihilation..... I really hate lessons learned the hard fashion!
Question on the Catalina 22 video, seems similar an easy fix, I could bend some aluminum all the way around the inside, he used rivets, would it be better to use stainless bolts? I'm thinking of stress on those rivets, or do the stays have the brunt of it?
- January ane, 2006
- half-dozen,275
- #vii
Uhmm.
Aluminum rivets could be also soft and may misconstrue with the compression of the rig on them. You will be able to audit them regularly. Employ loftier quality - I can't cite specs simply at that place's a diverseness of alloys available.
SS bolts may have the aforementioned trouble in contrary. They may elongate the aluminum hole with their relative hardness.
I all the same like the welding idea. Maybe epoxy and rivets? Belt & suspenders.
Aluminum rivets could be also soft and may misconstrue with the compression of the rig on them. You will be able to audit them regularly. Employ loftier quality - I can't cite specs simply at that place's a diverseness of alloys available.
SS bolts may have the aforementioned trouble in contrary. They may elongate the aluminum hole with their relative hardness.
I all the same like the welding idea. Maybe epoxy and rivets? Belt & suspenders.
- Jan 1, 2006
- vi,275
- #eight
Some other suggestion would be to make a jig to bend the aluminum stock on. Information technology's actress work but I call up the results would be better. Over again I cite offcenterharbor.com for video instructions. You lot become to spotter a couple without joining. Search the videos looking for a title "Working with metal." They take several and I call back one may have been bending metal. If non await for laminating wood shapes - which volition be like.
- Aug 13, 2022
- 533
- #ix
I have no clue how to repair the damage. But, you could utilize SS rivets. For that you need a proficient quality rivet gun, simply they are much stronger. Though, the corrosion problems come upwards (the aforementioned equally with the bolts).he used rivets, would information technology be better to use stainless bolts
- Sep fourteen, 2022
- one,105
- #x
Could have been worse, buddy lent boat to couple, she twisted talocrural joint getting on gunkhole , he had to process a claim for liability under his insurance for medical etc. Doubled his premiums but he at present has 1/ii as many friends!!
- Nov 6, 2006
- 9,318
- #11
Used to be a guy who lived aboard in the marina who made a lot of extra money by slipping on boats ..
- May 1, 2022
- 5
- #12
Turns out the boat he's simply sailed was a Sunfish........zippo wrong "captaining" a Sunfish, had ane years ago, I'grand simply wondering if it wasn't Divine Intervention that kept him off the water !! Would have been a existent bummer if he'd turn my sailboat into a submarine............
- Feb 21, 2022
- 4,140
- #xiii
Provide him with a bill for the repairs and if he does not have the integrity to pay for it and then consider minor claims.
- Feb 19, 2008
- 207
- #14
If there is no damage to the boat, hopefully the repair won't exist too bad. I agree with other that said that you should not pay information technology.
I had the opportunity to practice the right matter in Oct. Honest to crap the last time I hit something (with my automobile) was 1982, and there was a snow tempest involved, but I managed to accept a hunk out of a guy'southward gunkhole trailer with my trailer in a parking lot, then I left my contact info on his windshield. I of those super pretty fiberglass trailers, damage on my trailer was $50, harm on his was over $1000, simply I did it, and so I paid for the impairment.
Just super grateful he took it to a second shop after the $3000 estimate.
Nosotros had but launched the boat and I was parking the trailer. I could arraign information technology on the obnoxiously long tongue extension, but fact is my brain was on the weather, and the time, and the air current, and the sailing, and not on what I was actually doing.
- Jun iii, 2022
- ane,361
- #fifteen
I once backed into another motorcar in a parking lot. I was moving at crawl speed. Went back and examined the other motorcar. There was a half-dozen inch long rubber trim slice on his bumper that was only attached on one side. Not sure if I acquired that or not. I pushed information technology dorsum simply it would not stay in place. I left my info under his windshield wiper instructing him to replace the slice if it was my fault and I would reimburse him. I figured mayhap $50 for this slice of trim. Guy had his insurance company contact me and the process started with forms filled out for two insurance companies. I could non even detect a marker on my bumper and then it was all about his trim piece. In the end the guy had filed a fraudulent claim for thousands in amercement. There are many dishonest people and dishonest body shops out there. Learned a lesson there. On judgement twenty-four hour period this guy and the other frauds described above will become to explain their actions and that is the only consolation we go.
- Jul 7, 2004
- 8,110
- #xvi
I was thinking a sleeve too.If you lot cut it, you have to raise the mast footstep by the same corporeality or the standing rigging won't fit. Y'all might be able to get away with a lower boom (I wouldn't want that). You could shorten the standing rigging with no swage hardware. But getting the lengths right would be tricky.
An culling might be to accept a welder fashion a sleeve around the base of the mast and weld it to the mast and then to redial the holes.
And in that location'southward a new mast.
That'southward near all I've got.
- Apr 5, 2009
- 1,781
- #17
I saw your photo and said "Ah a C30 mast footstep but the pivot holes are open." In reading this thread, it appears that well-nigh of the comments are from people who have never seen the base of a C30 mast and they are seeing details as "damage" which are normal C30 mast stuff.
The repair looks pretty uncomplicated to me assuming that there is no other damage and the shaft is straight.
First off, I would accept information technology to a welding shop that does a good deal of aluminum repair. I would advise having them shape "doubler plates" that fit to the inside curvature of the plates to fully cover the pivot holes and extend out an inch or more across on all sides. Then plug weld the holes full and grind the surface to match the outside contour of the mast. Subsequently that, drill new pivot holes through the mast at the correct location.
The cost should be reasonable and I would look to your friend to encompass information technology.
The repair looks pretty uncomplicated to me assuming that there is no other damage and the shaft is straight.
First off, I would accept information technology to a welding shop that does a good deal of aluminum repair. I would advise having them shape "doubler plates" that fit to the inside curvature of the plates to fully cover the pivot holes and extend out an inch or more across on all sides. Then plug weld the holes full and grind the surface to match the outside contour of the mast. Subsequently that, drill new pivot holes through the mast at the correct location.
The cost should be reasonable and I would look to your friend to encompass information technology.
- November 26, 2022
- one,590
- #18
A friend of mine had a similarly damaged mast base. Took it to a rigger and they put a neckband around the base of the mast. I do not have any more than detail on the fix than that but information technology may be fixable.
- Apr 5, 2009
- ane,781
- #nineteen
On a C30 the tabernacle will non allow a sleeve on the exterior of the mast so the repair will demand to be within.
- Sep 24, 2022
- 1,610
- #20
To shed some calorie-free on costs...
One of my stays got caught while raising the mast and I ended upwardly with cracks in the mast around the spreader. I took information technology to what I believed to be (and still do) a reputable welder. He cutting out a circle expanse effectually the spreader base of operations, welded in ii sheets of one/8" aluminum for a full repair thickness of 1/four". He stated that if he had just welded the cracks that they might come back. The toll was around $350-375
One of my stays got caught while raising the mast and I ended upwardly with cracks in the mast around the spreader. I took information technology to what I believed to be (and still do) a reputable welder. He cutting out a circle expanse effectually the spreader base of operations, welded in ii sheets of one/8" aluminum for a full repair thickness of 1/four". He stated that if he had just welded the cracks that they might come back. The toll was around $350-375
If you take it to someone, be sure to clarify what hardware installation is or is not included in the price. I idea that remounting the spreader base of operations was included. He drilled the holes after I brought it up. Lesson learned by both of us
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